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Ep. 146 Stating and Defending the Reformed Protestant Doctrine of Salvation Through Faith Alone

Bob uses both Bible texts and intuitive arguments to state and explain the controversial Reformed Protestant doctrine that a person is saved not through good works, but by believing in Jesus.

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About the author, Robert

Christian and economist, Research Assistant Professor with the Free Market Institute at Texas Tech, Senior Fellow with the Mises Institute, and co-host with Tom Woods of the podcast "Contra Krugman."

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  1. Marko on 09/16/2020 at 6:42 AM

    Bob,

    I think this episode is TOTALY INSANE. Everything that you said today is not just wrong, but I would say evil. Especially the last 10 minutes where you wanted to illustrate everything with the example of Anakin, Hitler, son and Joseph.

    Even if god existed, as I hear more and more from you and other Christians, I must conclude that Christianity is not the good theory that explains it. Let us go with the order:

    1.) Yes, it was great that Luke convinced Dart Vader not to serve the evil emperor any more. But, the damage Vader did before that moment must count something. As a minimum he can not simply go and join Yoda, like nothing happened. This, again does not talk badly about the god’s justice, but about Christians that attribute this super unjust justice to some possible god. Thoughts count, actions count more. All the innocent people that suffered due to Vader’s evil, must count something. Also, what kind of justice standard are you promoting? If someone took you all your possessions, and at the end of his life came to you asking for forgiveness and even if he was truly honest and changed man, why would you forgive him? Even if he gave you back all that he stole, you had your life ruined, because you had to live on the street as a homeless person for years. He repented, but you had your life ruined anyway. That must count. There is no undo operation, suffering already happened. Now, if all you will say is that Christian God will do the undo operation, and will erase the memory of the victim after putting him into the heaven, so he will not remember of the previous suffering, still this can not undo the suffering that already happened. World remembers that happened. Justice can not work like that. Hell no, Vader can not play with Yoda.

    2.) Disowning the son: this is totally wrong. Of course you are going to disown your son after some threshold. Because the fact you raised him, does not mean you may continue loving him after everything he does. A serial rapist son, a serial killer son, etc. You don’t accept that, you disown that person. Unless, he has some brain tumor that provoked this behavior. I thought Christians were strong on free will and fighting evil. Why does it matter if an evil person is a stranger or our child? Everybody is personally responsible for his sins. And, no, not all the sins are equal, and yes, I throw the stone into a serial rapist, even though I stole a candy in the supermarket yesterday. There’s no place for utilitarianism here. You may help the son sinner in different ways, but you can not love him and you will not give your life for a son that burnt the church with 100 people inside. And no, there can not be a god that loves his children whatever they do. What kind of a monster that creature would be?

    3.) Hitler can never enter the heaven. Even if god existed and heaven too, nobody could be ever surprised to see Hitler in heaven, because that’s an impossible thing to happen. Even if Hitler truly realized how wrong he was 5 minutes before he got him shot in Berlin’s bunker. For the same reason as Vader. And if Christians believe Hitler can enter heaven under some circumstances, well, Christianity is patently wrong, insanely wrong.

    4.) God owning everything. This is may be the worst part, where I disagree with you mostly. No, not every creation is the same and no, the creator does not have the right to do with people everything he wants to. Creating a stone, a star or a planet, is one thing, creating a moral understanding creature is another. The second category is not subject to the same rules as the first one. Nobody can do with humans what he wants to do, simply, becuase he created the laws of physics that created humans. Sorry, does not work like that. Can not work like that. Nothing pushes me further away from Christianity than this belief that god has an absolute right. This is totally evil.

    5.) The Joseph story. This is pure evil, again. Doing bad to one person in name of doing a greater good is 1:1 utilitarianism. And it is equivalent to a mad doctor that takes 5 organs from 1 random person showing up in the hospital for a check-up to save 5 other persons needing exactly those organs. Utilitarianism is bad in this sense, and it is equally bad when your god is doing it.

    I am sorry Bob, for being so strong, but I respect you so much for other things you say and do, so instead of ignoring you, I am criticizing you. For this one, I apply what your friend Tom Woods said: everybody has the right for one wrong thing in their life. In your case, it is this understanding of god. And I repeat, even if god existed, all what you said can not not be attributed to him. That would be a god monster. In one of the next comments I will offer you a much better theory.

  2. Dan on 09/18/2020 at 11:15 PM

    Dude, literally no one believes that works saves you. Not the Catholic, not the Orthodox, not even the freaking Mormons. All agree that if you’re baptized but don’t have faith in Jesus then you’re not being saved. Everyone agrees that the first step every Christian must take on the path of God is to have faith. The debate is over how the grace of God is given to the believer, what the believer must do to access the saving grace of God, not over “faith vs. works.” Everyone agrees that you have to do something, they’re just arguing over what.

  3. Dan Coats on 09/19/2020 at 4:38 PM

    Hey Bob,

    Great content! God bless!

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